Serenity,
First of all, I want to say that I am not asking these questions to be difficult. I have found your site more useful than many other sites serving a similar purpose. At the same time, this site lacks sufficient training in its use. I have watched the brief video again and again. There should be a series of videos like this one explaining calmly and thoroughly how to make use of this profoundly useful material, but not very accessible to someone with little patience to try to figure it out. I have much patience and curiosity and I’m determined to understand both Benjamin Graham’s philosophy and also your program here that is proving so useful.
I am considering investing a large amount of money into Applied Materials Inc (AMAT). I want to understand how you reached your numbers below
#1. Current Assets ÷ [2 x Current Liabilities]: 114.75%
#2. Net Current Assets ÷ Long Term Debt: 122.19%
#3. [2 x Equity] ÷ Debt: 151.97%
Under the tab “Financial Condition” you provide the following:
Annual Sales: 14,608.00 Million
Current Assets: 10,206.00 Million
Total Assets: 19,024.00 Million
Current Liabilities: 4,447.00 Million
Long Term Debt: 4,713.00 Million
Total Liabilities: 10,810.00 Million
Shares Outstanding: 916.00 Million
1. For #1 above, I have successfully computed 10,206 ÷ [2 x 4,447] = 10,206 ÷8894 = 114.75%.
2. For #2 above, I cannot compute this. You provide “Current Assets” which I’m going to assume are the same as “Net Current Assets.” You also provide “Long Term Debt.” Therefore, 10,206 ÷ 4,713 = 216.55%. You have given a quotient of 122.19%. How did you compute this number?
3. For #3 above, I cannot compute this. Under “Financial Condition” you do not provide “Equity.” Is "Equity" the same as "Current Assets?" I’ve tried the number given for "Current Assets." It doesn’t come out to 151.97%. How did you compute this number?
Some questions:
1. If “Current Assets” are the same as “Net Current Assets” would you consider changing one or the other to have one standard and avoid confusion?
2. If “Equity” is different than “Current Assets” or “Net Current Assets,” would you consider adding “Equity” under your tab “Financial Condition” so users can compute these numbers to our satisfaction?
I appreciate your help and I hope you don't grow weary in answering my questions. I am your friend and if you make use of my questions and suggestions, you can improve upon an already excellent program that is needed by people like myself who value the wisdom of Benjamin Graham and others like him who are logical and careful investors. Thank you.
Submitted by Linus Christopher. Created on Saturday 23rd May 2020. Updated on Saturday 23rd May 2020.
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Dear Linus Christopher,
Thank you for your forum post and your valuable feedback!
Important: Diversification
Before investing large sums of money, please first look into Graham's recommendations on Position Sizing and Debt : Equity distribution.
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Free?
The free features are made available for users to get comfortable with how Serenity works, before they invest in the paid screener. The differences between the free and paid features can be seen at Search vs Classic vs Advanced.
Screener Presets
The Quick Reference already has the filter-preset links that you require (under Graham Grade), for opening both the free and paid screeners with Graham's standard filters set in advance.
The Quick Reference also has an explanation of all of Graham's grades, including the NCAV grade.
Graham Ratings
The Rating Score does consider all ratings. The score of 4.5 indicates that the stock clears four Defensive ratings (including one Utility rating), and one Enterprising rating.
Please note that the Rating Score was only introduced as way for users to quickly understand a stock's position, and has little little relevance to Graham's actual framework. Graham required specific combinations of these ratings such as the rating combination for Defensive stocks, which can be screened on the free Classic Graham Screener as follows.
Utilities
The Rating Score is based on the actual number of Graham Ratings that a stock clears. American States Water Co (AWR) clears five Graham Ratings.
But you do have a legitimate point. The Rating Score can be misleading in this case, since AWR actually is an excellent stock; and clears all of Graham's qualitative Defensive ratings for Utilities.
Then again, as mentioned previously, the Rating Score was only introduced as way for users to quickly understand a stock's position, The Rating Score has little little relevance to Graham's actual framework.
Graham Grade
Graham himself noted that Utilities were more likely to clear the Defensive criteria.
Utilities and Financials could not be included into the Graham grading system, because their specifications don’t necessarily apply to determinable sectors. They can sometimes apply to stocks that are not necessarily classified as Utilities or Financials, but they don’t apply to all stocks either.
The Graham grading system exists because not all of Graham's requirements are actually covered by the Graham Ratings. For example, the growth rule for Enterprising grade stocks and the earnings rule for NCAV stocks are not covered by the Graham Ratings.
So the Graham Ratings are more for getting a quick understanding and for customized screening, while the Graham grading system is actually a comprehensive Graham evaluation.
Fiscal Year
Serenity's screeners, as well as all individual stock pages, have information on:
a. When each stock was last updated.
b. Which Fiscal Year the data is for.
The Fiscal Year field for Lam Research Corp (LRCX) mentions 2019-06-30 under the Stock Data tab.
The Updated Date in this case possibly refers to the date when either the Previous Close or the TTM EPS was last updated.
Please note that Graham analyses are done almost exclusively with annual data.
All relevant information required to make an informed decision is presented on Serenity. But unfortunately, the subject is a complex one and the system may take a little bit of time and effort to figure out. Thank you for your patience!
Fair Value
The Multiplier here is simply another name for the P/E Ratio.
The 3 points you mention here constitute the basis for the derivation of the Graham Number, which is one of Graham's three Intrinsic Value calculations.
Standard Filters
The most accurate method of using Serenity's screeners is to use the screener-preset buttons in the Quick Reference.
Those buttons will open the screeners with Graham's standard filters set by default. One then only has to select one's exchanges.
Johannesburg and ZAc
This is not unusual as Assore Ltd (ASR.JO) has the Stock Exchange set to Johannesburg and the Currency value set to ZAc.
The current exchange rate from the USD to South African Cents is about >1791.336.
EPS, BVPS and TTM
1. The Earnings Per Share (EPS) values used to calculate the average annual EPS for the Graham Number for all stocks on Serenity — including JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM) — are:
a. Earnings Per Share (EPS)
b. EPS - 2 Years Ago
c. EPS - 3 Years Ago
2. EPS - TTM is a commonly used financial abbreviation for the trailing 12-month earnings per share (EPS).
3. The Graham Number is calculated using >BVPS.
The intrinsic Value for Enterprising grade stocks is calculated using >TBVPS as:
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Net Current Assets
Net Current Assets is defined as Current Assets minus Current Liabilities. This is the generally accepted definition; and is also mentioned in Graham's own book, The Interpretation of Financial Statements.
Shareholder Equity
The [2 x Equity] ÷ Debt rating on Serenity is simply a variation of of the standard Debt-To-Equity Ratio – D/E.
This Graham Rating is based on Graham's recommendations for "stock equity" or "stock capital" (also a common accounting term) in his instructions for selecting Financial and Utility stocks.
Equity ÷ Debt
The [2 x Equity] ÷ Debt rating is a derived value which is simply calculated as 2 x (Total Assets - Total Liabilities) ÷ Total Liabilities, as mentioned in the second comment in the link on Financial and Utility stocks.
Since it is a derivation based on existing values, and not a separate data-point, it has not been included in the individual stock pages.
Thank you!
Lastly, the Quick Reference link — and the links in its footnotes — should have most of the information you require to use Serenity's screeners.
Thank you once again for your valuable feedback, and your queries are welcome!
You are truly an amazing human being.
I am thoroughly impressed with the genius of this software program you are managing and likely created. I am equally impressed and grateful for the thoroughness and patience with which you have handled my inquiries. This program deserves to be promoted and used. At the same time, if it ever becomes really popular, the advantage to the few will be minimized as Graham explains in his books. Thank you so much!
Value Characteristics May Be Genetic
Thank you for your kinds words, Linus Christopher!
Genuine Value Investing is unlikely to ever become very popular, and Buffett explained why nearly 4 decades ago.
Contemporary Value Investors such as Seth Klarman too have echoed these thoughts.